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Thanks so much for all of your hard work." Terry
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and Pat --- Our praise and appreciation for all your efforts is Monday March 12, 2007 I attended the 3/7 meeting. Unfortunately there were to few residents in attendance. I'm sure this was because of the last minute notice. We must try and make sure that if there is another meeting in April it should be at the end of the month. The meeting was informative. I could not stay for the entire meeting. I did ask a few questions and made a statement or two. They have made a good attempt at revising the project. I'm not 100% sure as to how it will now affect the view etc side of the street. 1.)I asked them if they knew what variances they would need and they said no. 2.)As for the Lakeside building plan. They basically want to come out to the Summit building line on Saranac ave. They advise that the building would be graduated. From 1 level up to 3 where the parking lot entrance is off the street. I believe this will kill the view that everyone enjoys when driving into town on Saranac ave. Ofcourse with out the actual architectural plans we cannot tell for sure. I did mention to them that this portion of the project in my opinion would be problematic. Best regards, Barry Monday March 12, 2007 I am all for restrictive development that conforms to the building and zoning codes of Lake Placid THE APA and the town of North Elba.
I am not in favor of a hotel corporation renting its rooms for less than the cost of a ski ticket mid week and giving the ski ticket to the guest just to turn dollars in this town. They even give a free breakfast. If this hotel is supposed to be a world leader they need to recognize that giving the room away is not good for anyone.
I find it hard to believe that we are talking about less than 50 units. They have this presently in the current structure. Why invest the vast amounts of money they plan to for a mere 50- units . Joe Barelle built a lot more and sold them for a lot more.
I could be more understanding if I truly believed that they will have the staffing facilities for these rooms since we already are short staffed everywhere.
The impact on the Hillcrest residential homes will be devestastional if approved in its current format. The time frame to complete the building is at least five years. Think of the noise and construction the tourists and guests will have to survive.
Our nice neighborhood is going to be gone with the addition of these buildings. It is unfortunate but the Saranac Avenue corridor will become just another TUNNEL like the Holland Tunnel once the construction is finished.
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Hi Rob & Friends, I am mailing the DVD back on 3/7 with a small donation to cover postage & supplies. The DVD was very enlightening. I feel much more informed on the developemental issues facing LP. Thanks for the coverage of this project from the Hilton and homeowner perspective. One suggestion: Some resident's questions could not be heard (they spoke too softly). Someone should repeat the questions loud & clear for the benefit of the DVD audience. I look forward to watching future meetings as they become available. Please keep me on your "regular" list, if possible. Keep up the great work! Best Regards, Chuck Ambiell PO Box 54 Chester, NJ 07930 "The proposed Hilton Redevelopment Project sits at the base of Signal Hill, a residential neighborhood. This neighborhood co-exists with other commercial properties like the Mirror Lake Inn. The character on this side of Saranac Avenue is very different than the Main Street corridor. It is ?green? with lawns and trees, open spaces. At the February 7th meeting, Mr. DeForrest and the new architects appeared to be sincerely interested in working with the community to design and build a condominium project that will be in keeping with the town?s unique Alpine character. The architects will have the privilege to design a beautiful building and grounds that fit harmoniously into our picturesque community. They will have the opportunity to design a building that stays within the zoning laws that exist to protect us. We have given them a difficult task, but not one that cannot be accomplished. Today?s condominium buyers may want something larger and more luxurious than what we have to offer today, but I think that the buyer would want to own a condominium that fits beautifully into the community, not one that has a negative effect on the landscape. Like others in the community, I would like to see plans for the entire project including waterfront. Like others in my neighborhood, I am concerned about the tremendous impact this project will have on us personally. I would like to thank Mr. DeForrest and others for providing us with the opportunity to express our views on this project. I hope they came away from the meeting with a greater understanding of our community, our citizens, and our concerns " Iris Havlicek Signal Hill Resident "From
the Feb. 7 meeting at the Hilton: My name is Fr. Michael Jones. I am Rector of
St. Eustace Episcopal Church, but I am speaking as a neighbor. I live the next
street over. When Hilton put up this building, [The present hotel] they asked
to make it far higher than any other structure in town. I am told that Ruth Hart
successfully argued that no building should be higher than our tallest tree. The
reason that is such a strong argument is that Lake Placid's chief asset is God's
beauty. That beauty is both an aesthetic pleasure, but it is also our chief financial
asset. Mar that beauty and you don't just offend the eye. You damage the source
of our income. My wife and I moved up from Palm Beach County. We both remember
when structures and nature lived in a sort of harmony. Now you can no longer see
the ocean from Palm Beach, except for a few hundred yards of public land. Tall
buildings virtually hide the ocean from everyone except the privileged. This Hilton's
interior is lovely. Outside, it is ugly as a stump, and, frankly, I'm tired of
ugly buildings obscuring what God put there for all of us. So, I ask: why not
build something beautiful that complies with the town code that serves all of
us? " "The
meeting was a good first step. I feel the new architects certainly understand
the needs and concerns of the community. That being said. I would like to see
a rendering
for the entire project (Hilton Hotel, Lakeside and Waterfront). They were really
vague about it and that concerned me. The total impact for the area in question
is vital. On my way out of the meeting I had suggested to Mr. Deforrest if variances
are needed they should be run by the community. He said he thought that was a
very good idea. All the right things were said in this meeting. The proof will
be in the pudding"
My friend Jack Geortner subscribes to NCPR and gets their daily newscast. Last week he sent me the item about the Hilton controversy in LP in which you were interviewed. I emailed him back with this message: "I would put my money on Rob over Hilton Hotels any day." it was with delight, then, that I received Jack's email today with an NCPR link announcing HH's decision to scrap the plan. Bravo! Cheers, and I hope all is well. Jeff Jeff
Petersen Congratulations on your amazingly successful grass-roots campaign to halt the Hilton over-development on Mirror Lake! I logged onto your website this morning to get the talking points for our letter to the Zoning Board, and was delighted to see that you've already slowed the project to a standstill. That is great news. Alton and I wrote a letter (and sent the petition) anyway, since there may be additional rounds of negotiation, and it doesn't hurt to have extra letters. I'm attaching a copy of the letter in case you'd like to have it for your files. We certainly hope the project is not resurrected. Bravo again on your community organizing! Warm
wishes, I am a native of lake placid fo 50 years. And i do NOT want anymore condos built in my village! Especially on Mirror Lake. When is enough ,enough? Ruin beautiful Mirror Lake forever? Let them build their CONDOS out at the bobrun or the airport overlooking the BEAUTIFUL Olympic ski jumps. how about that? i really love this village, and i have seen quite a few changes in the last 30 years. is our town really PLACID, like it's name or should it be called lake plenty,, plenty of condos? i do not know where this letter is going, or who will read it but, if you have the power to stop all this developing, and keep lake placid ,our beautiful little village from becoming, well too modern, please STOP IT! I think i speak for other NATIVES, not so called locals, as they call us. Do not let them build any more. we love lake placid the way it is. you have my support and everyone of the people i know who grew up here too!
"Hilton's
design is huge. It is like five Walmarts stacked on top of each other, plus turrets,
peaked roofs and towers. Also, it appears to be just the first step of an aggressive
overall plan to build up their whole complex, making us look more like the Town
of North Hilton. " Terry Kent Acting Executive Director U.S. Bobsled & Skeleton Federation Lake Placid, NY 12946 "If it isn't one jerk it's another. We are really up against it! The almighty dollar is what is driving this poor plan for expansion. Keep up the good work Rob!" JoAnn Cancro Please- Click here to post your message. Thank God you won!! That's awesome! Phil M. We are very interested in this organization, as we feel our town is getting beyond it's quaint, hometown feel that we all appreciate it for. If you need more help of volunteers to spread the message, count us in. Sincerely, Michael and Cammy Sheridan PO Box 186 53 Quail Lane Lake Placid, NY 12946 ' The land use code, (which is a good one) states in it's opening mission statement "...purpose and intent of these Regulations is to promote the health, safety and the general welfare of the community....................to promote aesthetic values, and to encourage the most appropriate use of land throughout the Village of LP and Town of N. Elba Comprehensive Plan. Further, its purpose is to consider land use and development........in order to preserve the character and quality of life enjoyed in the Community at present.... The overall goal of the Comprehensive Plan is to protect and enhance both the community and its natural surroundings. The comprehensive Plan recognizes that we are a dual-purpose community - that the needs of the residents and our visitors are equally important. ' Georgia Jones "Progress is important to any town. However,when it changes the face of our town and the reasons why people live and visit here,then it has gone too far. A conservative updating of the Hilton Properties, in keeping with the town's character is called for, but not this massive approach or with the adverse affect on its residents that this project surely will have". Barry Press Please- Click here to post your message.
December 8, 2006 Guest Commentary Lake Placid News 6179 Sentinel Ave Lake Placid, NY 12946 Good News? Bad News? That really is the question you might want to ask yourself about the proposed Hilton Redevelopment Project located on Mirror Lake Drive. I know that for me, the answer is bad news. I've never paid enough attention to area zoning laws (like most of us, I've been busy.) But this project is different for me because it is being built in my front yard. No one else will be as adversely affected as I am, but the reason you may want to pay attention is because, as I have learned, what effects me will probably at some time effect you if you own a home in Lake Placid. The Hilton Redevelopment Project is proposing a 46 unit Condo/Hotel directly in front of my home. This project will replace the Hilton motel extension on Mirror Lake Drive. I live on Swiss Road, which is loosely considered to be part of the "Signal Hill" neighborhood. If I'm having a pizza or a bed delivered I just say I live right across the street from Dr. Bergamini, and that usually works for me. This district is labeled R-1A (Residential) in the land use codebook (This book is very, very thick and lives in Jim Morganson's office on the 3rd floor of the town hall.) The land use codebook made clear my current rights as a residential property owner; what my restrictions were with regard to setbacks and height restrictions for my home. It also spelled out for me the rights of my commercial neighbor, The Hilton. The Hilton's land use code is C-1 for commercial properties. Two of the many C-1 restrictions are: 1. No building, parking or service area shall be closer than 100 feet to a Residential District 2. The Maximum height for C-1 Zone is 30 feet. The Hilton developers are seeking four variances from the current land use code. Two of these concern the above listed restrictions. The Hilton has asked to take back 67 feet of the 100-foot setback that protects me, the residential neighbor, from them for a parking lot. This will make the buffer 33 feet instead of 100 feet. So now there will be a parking lot 33 feet from my front yard. My house sits close to my property line so the effect is that my house is now sitting in the parking lot of the new Hilton Condo owners. The original intention of the land use code was to protect me, the residential neighbor, from the noise, fumes, and lights from commercial use. Is there any sane reason why the Hilton should be granted this setback variance? Sixty-seven feet is an insane request, but frankly, as I've paid my mortgage and taxes on this property for eighteen years and worked in the community for as many, I don't see how I can be reasonably expected to give up any of this setback to developers. Can you? Pretty much the same argument goes for the height variance the developer is requesting. They are looking for 19 feet 10 inches above the 30 feet allowed in the land use code. This then seems like it would wind the project up at about 50 feet high in front of my house. When I look at the drawings for this project, it appears that the building in front of my house will be 69-72 feet in height (I have asked several people, including town building personnel if this can possibly be true. Since they are only asking for 19'10, how did we get to 72 feet? I know the height code is difficult to interpret, but I don't think it was the intention of the code to exceed the 30-foot limit by 42 feet.) I will no longer have a view of the lake and mountains, which I have enjoyed for the last 18 years. Isn't it ironic that as I'm just about to pay off my home mortgage, not only will the value of it be taken away, but also my personal enjoyment of it? And here's the final bit of irony. if we don't get this project to consider the rights of the neighboring home-owners, someone, probably from Connecticut or Northern New Jersey, will have been offered my land and view, by a developer from Illinois, who will receive somewhere between $500 -1.5 million dollars for each of the 46 units, and neither the developer nor the second home owner will ever live here. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the future of the year-round resident is really what is at stake here. If you live here, come to a public hearing for this project on December 18 at the Town Hall at 7PM. Maybe we can help each other understand this project and our rights as residents of Lake Placid. Pat Grant 37 Swiss Road Lake Placid, NY 12946 518-523-2099 Please- Click here to post your message. To the Lake Placid Zoning Board of Appeals: I have lived in Lake Placid as a seasonal resident since 1950 and have been a home owner since 1961. I make the 6 hour drive from Rhode Island happily because I am drawn by the beauty of mountains, forests and lakes. They refresh my soul. In recent years I have been aware of increasing cars and people on the village streets, taking away from the restful atmosphere of the past. Now this outsize HIlton hotel/condo construction plan will further alter the landscape, and the rural character of Lake Placid Village will further deteriorate. I have watched the condos go up along the coastline of Rhode Island over the past 10 years. It can happen very quickly, if the community is not alert to the danger. I think that Lake Placid residents should unite to fight this project, and to save their community. Barbara A. Hail Curator Emerita Haffenreffer Museum of Anthropology Brown University SaveLakePlacid.com email: comments@SaveLakePlacid.com www.SaveLakePlacid.com www. SaveOurSmallTown.com www.LakePlacid Zoning.com |